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Can You ‘Treat’ Personality Traits? - Dr. Shannon Sauer-Zavala | DSTLLD Podcast Episode 026
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Can You ‘Treat’ Personality Traits? - Dr. Shannon Sauer-Zavala | DSTLLD Podcast Episode 026

Fighting causes, not symptoms.

With Dr. Sauer-Zavala, a seasoned clinical and research psychologist, we dissect the appeal of personality assessments like the Myers-Briggs and contrast them with the Big Five personality traits, an evidence-based model that offers a more accurate reflection of our identities. We navigate the evolution of personality over time, revealing how traits like neuroticism and conscientiousness can influence well-being and achievement.

We confront the challenges within current diagnosis frameworks and the innovative treatments reshaping patient care. Dr. Sauer-Zavala highlights the effectiveness of cognitive behavior therapy in fostering lasting change in our self-perception and behaviors. We delve into the Unified Protocol and its success in treating a spectrum of disorders by zeroing in on common underlying traits like neuroticism. Rather than isolated symptoms, championing a transdiagnostic approach to revolutionize therapy.

We unravel the complexities of BPD and its wide spectrum of presentations while underscoring effective, tailored treatments.

00:00 - Intro

01:54 - Myers-Briggs, baked potatoes and Pottermore

03:44 - Explaining the Five Factor model

06:09 - Is there an optimal personality?

08:43 - Good traits for career success

10:39 - The importance of identity in personality change

12:28 - Shannon's book on neuroticism

14:51 - What is the Unified Protocol?

15:57 - Why has no one tried to treat neuroticism before?

19:38 - Are there too many diagnoses?

24:17 - Do therapists have bad incentives?

25:56 - Grassroots therapy initiatives

27:46 - Shannon's work with Borderline Personality Disorder

34:46 - Is a therapist a substitute for friends?

38:18 - Personal agency in improving your life

41:39 - How to choose a good therapist

45:16 - Avoid Avoiding

49:47 - Where to find Dr. Sauer-Zavala

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